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Larkspur Offline
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:16:31 AM(UTC)
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"Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight." As a child we sang this song all time. But is it OK these days? I have an idea for a card or LO, but, I don't want to be politically incorrect or offend someone. What do you think???
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:22:08 AM(UTC)
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Wow, good question. i really have no idea. But, if you are not sure then you probably shouldn't use it. JMHO
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:24:50 AM(UTC)
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I guess it depends on who you are going to give it to, I don't find it offensive at all having sung this song as a child and teaching it to my daughter as she grew up
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:27:46 AM(UTC)
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I dont find it offensive at all. I sang that song growing up.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:25:11 AM(UTC)
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Please don't flame-I am just giving opinion. I guess I would not address anyone as "yellow" or "red"...I also heard that song growing up, but there were a lot of things I heard growing up that I don't repeat as an adult.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:40:18 AM(UTC)
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I have no problem with it. The song is just saying that even though we may appear different on the outisde, we are all the same on the inside, and we are all created by God because He loves us and so that we can honor Him with our worship.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:43:04 AM(UTC)
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No problem here either. I grew up with it and so has my daughter. Do what you feel comfortable with.

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:04:04 AM(UTC)
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I don't find it offensive but I also don't find it acceptable anymore. We don't refer to Native Americans as "Red" anymore. They were never RED in the first place. We also don't refer to Asians as "Yellow". It's just extremely dated and was never really "right" in the first place.

In our house the phrase is "I don't care if you're purple with green polka dots". Referring to a skin color that is obviously way out there and clearly not possible, is making the point. ;)

Being "Brown" I wouldn't use it ;)

~M
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:06:48 AM(UTC)
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I have no problems at all with the song.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:15:06 AM(UTC)
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I also sang this as child an it never occurred to me what the colors meant. I wasn't taught that people are different A Little ones mind works very differently than a an adult. As in Elmo is red and Big bird is yellow. But I suppose some people would find it offensive.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:12:55 AM(UTC)
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Princessaam wrote:
I don't find it offensive but I also don't find it acceptable anymore. We don't refer to Native Americans as "Red" anymore. They were never RED in the first place. We also don't refer to Asians as "Yellow".


Not exactly red or yellow, but it is based on tones that show or how they appear. Just like white people aren't 'white' either. (And technically 'Asians' wouldn't all be yellow anyway since it covers more area than just the Far East. Wink )

Even though *I* don't think it is it might make a difference on how the layout and/or card is designed if you're not sure of you're audience. I think it'd be fun with Big Bird and Elmo now that someone mentioned it. Laugh
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:18:05 AM(UTC)
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Being that I would fall under the "yellow" catagory, I guess I would have to ask myself if it offends me. I also grew up singing this song and find no offense to it.

I try to look at intention, and what this means to me is that no matter our "color" we are all his children.

I would say to put love into this project and THAT will be what shines through. Politally correct or not.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:29:51 AM(UTC)
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Larkspur wrote:
"Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight." As a child we sang this song all time. But is it OK these days? I have an idea for a card or LO, but, I don't want to be politically incorrect or offend someone. What do you think???


I think you would have to take it in context.

For instance, if you were to say to someone "Well, he is a _______ skinned, no good...blah...blah....blah, then yes, it would be used in a derogatory manner.

HOWEVER, the fact that you are saying that they are "ALL precious in HIS sight..." the context is pure and thus the intent is pure, so why someone would find offense with that is beyond me. Doesn't this song do exactly what society is asking us to do, which is be inclusive? Just my .02
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:47:53 AM(UTC)
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Princessaam wrote:
I don't find it offensive but I also don't find it acceptable anymore. We don't refer to Native Americans as "Red" anymore. They were never RED in the first place. We also don't refer to Asians as "Yellow". It's just extremely dated and was never really "right" in the first place.

In our house the phrase is "I don't care if you're purple with green polka dots". Referring to a skin color that is obviously way out there and clearly not possible, is making the point. ;)

Being "Brown" I wouldn't use it ;)

~M


seriously is that you in your avatar??? you look so different. i love the red hair!! you're very pretty!!!!

oh sorry for the hijack!

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#15 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:50:43 AM(UTC)
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landlockedislandgirl wrote:
Being that I would fall under the "yellow" catagory, I guess I would have to ask myself if it offends me. I also grew up singing this song and find no offense to it.

I try to look at intention, and what this means to me is that no matter our "color" we are all his children.

I would say to put love into this project and THAT will be what shines through. Politally correct or not.



i'll go with this as my answer too. and add that it does really depend upon the recipient.

oh and we grew up with these words:

red, brown, yellow, black, and white they are precious in his sight
jesus loves the little children of the world

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#16 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:58:33 AM(UTC)
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As someone else has already said no one person is exactly red, yellow, black or white, so I don't find offense to the song at all. I grew up singing it, so did my children and the concept behind it as it is has been for many, many years is we are all the same. "Jesus loves the little Children, all the children of the world", is what is being taught. I honestly never associated the colors in the song to actual skin colors of people when I was growing up either. I just thought it was like saying you can blue, purple, green or whatever and they just used those colors. Maybe my parents at some time explained it that way I don't really know? I am Caucasian, but my skin color is not white! I have a very nice tan right now! BigGrin
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:08:45 AM(UTC)
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BugginAway wrote:
I am Caucasian, but my skin color is not white! I have a very nice tan right now! BigGrin



I tell people my husband comes in 2 colors - red and white. LOL He's fair-skinned and burns. Lovely when he does that and THEN gets a haircut. Nice white outline around his hair. RollEyes Though I guess he's brown, too, with all the freckles. Then his necks looks dirty. LOL His arms do get tannish.
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:32:42 AM(UTC)
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I don't see any problem with it at all. It's the point of the songthat matters. And yes, you could pink and green, blue and brown.... and the song still has the same meaning. Anyone finding this song offensive is looking for a fight.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:37:36 AM(UTC)
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I think it's dated...I am sure there are other things, poems, rhymes you could use.
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:43:09 AM(UTC)
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i dont think its offensive at all, its the meaning of the words. it bothers me how everyone tries to be so "PC" about everything now days that look for to get offended over everything. Mad
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#21 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:48:24 AM(UTC)
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Josy wrote:
i dont think its offensive at all, its the meaning of the words. it bothers me how everyone tries to be so "PC" about everything now days that look for to get offended over everything. Mad


People like to be offended. I'm convinced of it.
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#22 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:05:04 AM(UTC)
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~talulah~ wrote:

seriously is that you in your avatar??? you look so different. i love the red hair!! you're very pretty!!!!

oh sorry for the hijack!




Thank you Blushing . Yeah...that's me. I have help with the red ( duh LOL) and I'm fair in the pic because it's the middle of winter and I'm only half ( but culturally whole ;)) Hispanic.

I understand what everyone is saying with the intent of the words. I think for ME, since we have never really referenced anyone by color/creed/anything non-environmental ( because the fact my family is a Flippin RAINBOW .... maybe a DOUBLE RAINBOW - teehee) I just don't see the point of pointing out colors at all. I would probably chose a phrase like "All of us, great and small. He loves us one, he loves us all."

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#23 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:18:07 AM(UTC)
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I come from a big family and over the years through marriage and adoptions, our family covers all the colors in that song. I can tell you for sure that no one in my family finds that song offensive. There is no reason to be offended by those words. IMHO

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JamieB wrote:
People like to be offended. I'm convinced of it.


haha! LOL I agree, its just a need for attention.
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#25 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:13:22 PM(UTC)
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I personally am NOT offended as I and my children have grown up with that song. I have heard the newer version but can't remember the words. So many kid songs have been revised because they are not PC in our modern world.
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#26 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:13:52 PM(UTC)
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If it is your layout you are doing and you like the song then what difference does it make what others think?
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#27 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:23:36 PM(UTC)
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I don't find it at all offensive ... at the time the song came out, they were stressing that the skin/hair color just doesn't matter, we are all the same. That's the point you are trying to make and your heart is in the right place.
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#28 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:31:22 PM(UTC)
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The song was written in the late 1800's.

~M
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Seriously?
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:59:25 PM(UTC)
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I think that if your project is created with love, how could someone be offended? I wish that we all could spend more time showing our love for one another instead of worrying if we are politically correct. Just my opinion, and how I feel.
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